zodiacal_light: Humour: Because angst is not jolly. (Default)
I am as shocked as you are.

And yes, I know I have a bunch of Tortall fics to finish, but I've been rereading all the Circle books and reviewing them for my normal journal, and Glake is having their Role Reversal Week, and it all melded together in my head when I started wondering what Glaki, the twins, and the other students would be like as adults. So.

If I am lucky and don't freeze my fingers off in this drafty house, it may be up tomorrow.


Sep. 12th, 2012 04:09 am
zodiacal_light: AU: Because everything's better with zombies. (AU)
A lot changes if you eliminate the Immortals, and not always the obvious stuff. It means a lot of little changes too, like Kel not having her griffin-feather band, that I entirely forgot about.

...This is fun and exciting and I wish I didn't have to sleep now and do classwork tomorrow (er, later today) because I have SO MANY IDEAS and two stories fully laid out in my head and the end is omg in sight and I want to write them all NOW.

Oh, well.

Also, is it just me, or does not a lot actually happen in the Immortals Quartet? I've blown through the books again for the fics, and I was trying to keep track of the major events - there aren't really that many, and certainly not after you cut out all the stuff with Immortals. There are pretty big time jumps between the books, but the books themselves cover very little. Which in a way is wonderful, because it means I can skip a lot and not end up with a massive fic o'doom again.

cut for me nattering on again )

All that said, I am so ready to churn out this fic. Pacing/flow problems or no.

Largely because it's turning into a sort of character exploration of Numair, with the requisite crackishness this 'verse demands. XD

ETA: There is only one single plot thing I can't decide on, for Unhidden #3, though I'm still ironing out some details. So I ask the internets - Daine/Numair, or no Daine/Numair? I hate the 'ship, but. I am wondering if that'd come across forced, since I usually do break them up/make them never happen.

On the one hand, canon. Also, I can almost make the case for it in this 'verse, esp. if I do what I'm considering and limit Numair's role as Daine's teacher/mentor. On the other, well. I don't see them a) lasting, whatever Pierce insists, or b) happening outside a very specific set of circumstances*, largely but not entirely known as RotG, which basically doesn't happen in this 'verse. So.

Maybe I should just write them as a fling. Or marry Numair off again.

*Funny how very many times I've said that about stuff in Pierce's books, really. Not that that's a bad thing, necessarily - for example, Joren's bullying occurs under very particular circumstances, and he'd be much less of a threat in a different context.

But it's interesting how often that's true of her romances. Daine/Numair and Aly/Nawat are the ones that come to mind - and in Tortall, there are only three lasting romances out of four leading ladies. So. Alanna/George I can see happening under multiple scenarios - not either of the other two.
zodiacal_light: AU: Because everything's better with zombies. (AU)
You know the eerie thing about this? Every single crackbunny has a solid base in canon.

So far, the 'verse incorporates:
1. The idea that the Numair executed in EM was the real Numair, and the Numair we saw starting in the menagerie scene was a simulacrum. Given what little we know of simulacra - and who we know uses them - this is not that unlikely.
2. The idea that Numair really did commit treason against Carthak. The idea of him being a Tyran agent stems from this, mostly because it's about the only plausible reason, given his character, that I could see him as a traitor to Ozorne, but also because it explains another inexplicable thing in canon: why he flees to Tortall instead of Tyra, where he still canonically has living family, and goes to work for another foreign crown, one he has absolutely no connection to. Plus I get to piss Jon off, which is always worth it. XD Also, it allows me to explore Numair the Tyran more; from what we know of Tyra, Numair is remarkably deferent to and competent at dealing with nobles/royalty.
3. The idea that the Numair we see is a clever facade. Numair really underreacts to most things in canon, which was pointed out to me a long time ago back on my meta post on his character; at the very least, he's canonically repressing and glossing over a lot of his real emotions - or he's got ridiculously flat affect. Because I cannot imagine anyone without a dark side, especially not someone who was canonically on the run from the Emperor Mage, living on the streets of Tortall, I suggest that the real Numair is ... not that nice. Which is not implausible. Also, we do sorta see slips in Numair's mask in canon, which sorta bolster this theory. If you squint.
4. The idea that Daine as a god, had she chosen that route, would manifest more of her father's inhuman traits. Admittedly, I've taken that to an extreme here - deliberately - because I think that her overflow of wild magic and ability to shapeshift might really eff her up. Incidentally, almost all of the animals she manifests parts of are personally significant to her, which I hope is kinda obvious. XD
5. The notion that Numair did Daine no favors by magically "fixing" Daine's insanity in WM. This bugs me as a trope in general, but here - I mean, magic can fail. Or be removed. And she'd be less equipped, if that ever happened, to handling her losing herself to her magic than she would if she'd had to learn how to hold onto her sense of self.
6. In the third installation, this 'verse will start incorporating the notion that Numair steals the Dominion Jewel. This is admittedly less directly rooted in the books and more an outgrowth of #2 above; if you had access to an enemy's or hostile ally's secret weapon, conveniently pocket-sized, and the ability to get away fast, wouldn't you snag it? Especially if it could ensure your teeny mercantile republic's security and stability amidst several larger expansionist powers? It also stems from my frustration at the Jewel being reduced to a trinket post-Immortals; the famine is a half-assed explanation that I frankly don't buy, but Jon carrying around a replica of the real Jewel to reassure his people is scarily plausible.
7. Ozorne really has divine blood. Admittedly, as I said in my post on him, this is crackish, but. This is a universe with real gods, who really do go down and tell people what to do. Immortals borks SotL by having the gods interact with people at the drop of a hat, but even in SotL, having real, physical gods who manifest sometimes, however rarely, would have a drastic effect on how people relate to their deities. And one of the things that is just flat suicidal is declaring yourself a god without any reason for it. Given that I generally read EM!Ozorne as sane, if not exactly nice, he needs a solid reason for that particular shenanigan.
8. I have wondered this for ages: if Daine has, in EM, dead-raising powers, and she is, in EM, pissed off that Numair is, well, dead, why the HELL doesn't she go track down his corpse and raise it? It's heavily implied with the dinosaurs and Bone that the actual soul/spirit of the corpse in question comes back to life. (It would, admittedly, be hilarious to see Numair the Headless Mage...do we even know how exactly he's executed?)
9. Daine in EM is out of control at the end, and this is blown off as a joke, or worse, something understandable and sympathetic. I'm sorry, she's either a mass murderer or a war criminal. But there is one notion I can get behind that makes her, if not more reasonable, more sensical as a character: the notion that being a demigod means one is ... rather unstable. That works, for me. I don't like EM!Daine any better, but I can get a handle on her that way. But then it raises the immediate question of why people - anyone, really - lets such a walking menace roam free.

...I think that covers all the crackbunnies I've thrown in HtP so far. All the ones I can remember off the top of my head, anyway.
zodiacal_light: AU: Because everything's better with zombies. (AU)
This is me, rambling on about spoilery brainstormy stuff for my current AU. You are duly warned. XD

Damn, Numair, how do you manage to be both ridiculously creepy, horribly inept, and still somehow competent enough for government work in a completely cockeyed way, all at the same time?

Also, Ozorne is starting to freak me out. What happened, man? You were actually rather sane and reasonable in the first fic!

...I think godhood fucked with his head.

...Huh. If Daine died/ascended to godhood while she still had the Hag's magic, would she still have it as a god? ...brain is saying, why the hell not. another crackish idea for the muddle that is this 'verse.

So I wonder if simulacra disintegrate at some point. IDK. On the one hand, canonically Numair gets rid of his when done with no problem. On the other, Daine does see the simulacrum stored away in Lindhall's office under a sheet, and it obviously had to be real enough to fool Ozorne and his executioner, which implies something much more akin to a real physical body. hmhm.

While I'm nattering away, anybody have more crackish ideas for the blender? Screwing around with Tortall's magic and metaphysics has just blown the whole 'verse wide open. Whee.

.....eeee. I kind of cannot believe I'm saying this, but I now have a burning urge to run this 'verse up through DotL, just for the vague possibility of having Aly run across inept-yet-strangely-competent TyranSpy!Numair. IDK. Though I am also scared, because that'd mean she probably runs across Ozorne too, and somehow I see Aly and Ozorne really getting along quite well, which brings forth in me a feeling of unholy dread. So.

Also, Jon? Check who's holding your money before pissing off a merchant republic, k? Jon learns the hard way just why the tiniest nation in the Eastern Lands is still independent, given that it's bordered or near three (IMO) canonically imperialist/expansionist powers.

...this icon, too, is strangely appropriate for this 'verse.

...It just occurred to me that I have NO IDEA what happened to Kitten in this 'verse. how intelligent is she, at that age? if she's akin to a human child, does she even understand quite what happened to Daine? would she follow her to the Divine Realms? Could Kitten even follow on her own? And I am not at all sure how wild-bogeyman!Daine would react to Kitten. Hmhm. Thinky thinky.


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